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2008-06-4 16:06:58

[3:16:36 PM] customer 说: so, did you send me any samples?
[3:17:08 PM] me 说: no
[3:17:23 PM] me 说: we did not have a deal on that project,
[3:17:44 PM] me 说: did you mean the desktop flex project?
[3:18:03 PM] customer 说: yes
[3:18:46 PM] me 说: we did not have a deal on that
[3:18:53 PM] customer 说: yes not yet
[3:19:10 PM] customer 说: i wanted to ask if you have any samples of air applications you created
[3:20:10 PM] me 说: ….
[3:20:16 PM] me 说: you really forget everything
……………………….
[3:22:24 PM] customer 说: aha now i remember
[3:22:27 PM] customer 说: you are in china
[3:22:28 PM] customer 说: right?
[3:22:31 PM] me 说: yes
[3:22:40 PM] customer 说: you quoted something like 2000$?
[3:22:49 PM] customer 说: it was much beyond my budget
[3:23:12 PM] me 说: this not a small project in my opinion,
[3:23:32 PM] me 说: waht is your acceptable quote?
[3:24:05 PM] customer 说: 500
[3:24:34 PM] me 说: BTW,what is your site url?
[3:24:42 PM] me 说: I have forget your site url
[3:24:58 PM] customer 说: i have a number of projects – this is the first of a series of which
………………………………
[3:25:44 PM] me 说: I got it, you want to clone to a desktop air software
[3:25:59 PM] me 说: sorry,really more work than you thought
[3:27:56 PM] me 说: I think you just want to find some one chapter, I will not compare price with them…
[3:28:36 PM] me 说: sorry ,cheaper ,I meam
[3:28:37 PM] customer 说: yes, but 500 is a lot of money
[3:28:43 PM] customer 说: especially in china
[3:29:00 PM] customer 说: average salary in china is much lower
[3:29:07 PM] me 说: lol,if you like, I can refer you other guys
[3:29:18 PM] customer 说: it’s true
[3:32:28 PM] me 说: what is true?
[3:33:13 PM] customer 说: [8:28:37 AM] customer says: yes, but 500 is a lot of money
[8:28:44 AM] customer says: especially in china
[8:29:01 AM] customer says: average salary in china is much lower
[3:34:23 PM] me 说: see your project,not a small one,you need clone full function to a desktop one.. Miroverve
[3:36:00 PM] customer 说: i am not disputing whether it is small or big, but i think 500 is sufficient for it, especially for someone working in china. the price structure is very different. for example, how much do you pay for your apartment?
[3:36:12 PM] customer 说: per month
[3:36:45 PM] me 说: 1500 yuan 220$
[3:37:59 PM] customer 说: you see, this pays for more than 2 times your monthly rent
[3:38:18 PM] customer 说: you can include food in that too
[3:38:22 PM] customer 说: and entertainment
[3:38:32 PM] me 说: …. good idea, so I just work for live?
[3:38:58 PM] customer 说: where exactly in china are you?
[3:39:32 PM] me 说: Beijing
[3:40:00 PM] me 说: I think you have work with other guys in China before ,right?
[3:40:24 PM] customer 说: yep
[3:41:18 PM] me 说: so you have a idea that people cheaper here, yes ,it is true,but for good me,we work same with others over world.
[3:41:53 PM] me 说: So I just quote for project,not quote according where I am live
[3:43:50 PM] customer 说: yes, but that’s the point of me getting a me in another country – if i just go “by project” i can hire someone right here next to me – the point for me to outsource to someone in china or india or ukraine is because it is cheaper.
[3:45:08 PM] me 说: I can earn 1000$ in 7 days,so why I accept your project 500$ and work for 2 month?
[3:45:39 PM] me 说: you get what you paid for,I think so
[3:46:15 PM] customer 说: ok, that’s up to you – i am simply offering you a chance – if you have better offers, by all means, don’t let me stand in the way ;)
[3:49:10 PM] customer 说: in any case, if you ever find yourself free and think you’d like to work on something, don’t hesitate to contact me
[3:50:20 PM] me 说: en,I will ,I understand specs of your project,but not accept price.
[3:50:27 PM] me 说: see you.
[3:50:38 PM] customer 说: bye!
[3:50:41 PM] me 说: bye



古语有云:不食嗟来之食!比较激动,不想多说。从世界角度来说,我们国家的人是便宜,但是绝不放弃尊严来接受不合理交易。尊严比活着更重要!


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37条评论

  1. Dan Waldron http://www.customerservicehelper.com

    Hi. I read a few of your other posts and wanted to know if you would be interested in exchanging blogroll links?

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    2008-06-4 16:16:06
  2. 小猪凯

    你根本不应该跟他说这么多的.

    浪费口水.

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    自由天空 回复:

    我本来也不想多说,可发觉她越说越不对味。。。。

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    小猪凯 回复:

    嗯,大概配合上语境之类的,味道不对,表现得不友好.

    我匆匆看了一下,没怎么注意这些.

    果然林子大了什么鸟都有啊.我还是做得太少了,遇到的一旦在价格上话不投机,立马说88.最近更是只给一个人做.等能上网后吧,一定要多接触些别的客户.

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    2008-06-4 17:08:56
  3. 小猪凯

    呵呵,我觉得你的反应有点过激了.对方觉得不发达国家工资水平低,所以500$就足够了.你只要告诉他你有自己的标准就行了.

    浪费了好多口水啊,好可惜.不过你的英语的确比我的强很多,词汇比我的要丰富多了.

    当然了,也许他的确表示出了对中国的某些不友好的意思来,只是我没看出来.那么就当我没说好了.

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    自由天空 回复:

    不,你没感觉出来她的语境,她是这种语气:

    小猪凯,听说你们那里人工资低啊,这个项目一般人做要1000,我给你100,你就得做并且还得偷着乐啊。谁让你们那里人便宜呢。。。

    你会有什么感觉?

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    小猪凯 回复:

    呵呵,配合上不同的语境,相同的话会表现出非常不同的意思来.是我刚才没有仔细体会.

    跟你一起BS万恶的资本主义佬!

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    自由天空 回复:

    正如你所说林子大了什么都有,
    他其实说的没错,只不过不考虑尊严,尊严才是更重要的东西啊。
    呵呵,希望你们碰到这样的事也能有效的处理之。

    小猪凯 回复:

    呵呵,最近没做多少。

    tim 回复:

    遇到这种人真是浪费力气,今天我也遇到一个,气人。什么都谈好了,价格最后一说就byebye了。以后还是要先订好一个价格先。

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    小猪凯 回复:

    嘿嘿,小气鬼哪儿都有.

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    2008-06-4 17:23:17
  4. 游客

    哎呀,好羡慕你呀。

    支持你一下。

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    2008-06-5 10:43:54
  5. tim

    我的经验,大多数时候是在选标的时候就选一个最便宜的了,哈哈

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    自由天空 回复:

    别紧,等我有尽情的时候写一篇文章解释一下这个事,你已经提过好多次这种情况了,他有他的选择,我们有我们的方向。。。

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    tim 回复:

    没办法阿,我bid了650块,被一个bid500块只有两个评论的人拿去了。气

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    自由天空 回复:

    呵呵,你90后啊,还这么冲动。哈哈
    你怎么知道人家500的不如你做的好?
    这种情况基本上是人家做的又好又便宜哦。

    小猪凯 回复:

    从客户的角度来看,那没错.

    自由天空 回复:

    挣钱不挣第一次那文章你们看了没?

    小猪凯 回复:

    第一次接单?第一次接某种类型的单?第一次接某个客户的单?

    每个人都有自己的想法吧.按照自己的想法,坚持坚持再坚持就是了.

    2008-06-5 12:24:05
  6. 霜之殇

    应该跟她说,现在美元跌得这么厉害,今天收你2000$明天就缩水一半,看她怎么想^_^

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    临渊 回复:

    你太帅了~

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    2008-06-6 18:42:32
  7. 题目好像是韩寒的文章啊.

    题目好像是韩寒的文章啊.

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    2008-06-12 12:28:20
  8. Jason http://huacn.blogbus.com

    操,有这样的人
    妈的,感觉有点像歧视中国人一样
    楼主做得好

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    自由天空 回复:

    自己感觉去吧,说不出来。
    请注意用语

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    2008-07-17 10:37:09
  9. 52cpp

    哈哈,真是个鸟人,别理他就是了!不是所有的客户都要满足的!

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    2008-07-17 20:34:34
  10. 自由人

    顶,鄙视我们中国人

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    2008-08-19 08:59:32
  11. 自由人

    请问楼主是否在外国留过学,英语那么棒!

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    小猪凯 回复:

    我来替博主回答吧,”无他,唯手熟尔”

    几年前我还连一篇非常简单的英语技术文章也看不了,一年前我跟外国人用邮件的方式交流都需要看半天,半年前我用MSN跟外国人用英语交流磕磕绊绊……现在已经比以前熟练了许多,不过还非常不够.

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    tim 回复:

    嗯,比较难,最大的痛苦是学了十几年的英语,其实缺少一个最重要的语境。就像闭门造车。只好认了

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    自由天空 回复:

    替你更新一下,我们不是学了几十年的英语,我们是学了几十年的中国英语,考试英语,单词英语。而不是交流用的英语。

    小猪凯 回复:

    是呀,学的东西可能比较深,但由于没有应用的地方,学完了就忘,以至于学了十几年还不如在应用中学习几年呢.

    自由天空 回复:

    这就叫实践出真知了

    2008-08-19 09:30:50
  12. Sande Windson

    Either birds live in a such huge forest.

    If someone wanna earn cheap money in China, he will always be a cheap man!

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    2008-08-20 11:23:40
  13. Elaine Lee

    Well done! Cheer for you!

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    2008-09-19 15:02:18
  14. club penguin cheats http://clubpenguincp.com

    nice blog! thanks for the help.

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    2011-08-23 11:33:55
  15. Michael

    I just refused an offer of 1000USD a month just because the client is too agressive.

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    2011-08-29 17:19:09
  16. Michael

    古语有云:不食嗟来之食!比较激动,不想多说。从世界角度来说,我们国家的人是便宜,但是绝不放弃尊严来接受不合理交易。尊严比活着更重要!
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    严重同意

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    2011-08-29 17:20:15

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